Paul Dagnello and Roger Lavallee both speak the language of people who are obsessed with music and the gear used to make it. I try to listen and learn, but their references are often so esoteric that it's obvious that I'm only pretending to know what they're talking about. My contributions are little more than echolalic gibberish, and I usually have to wait until they return to speaking English before I can really join the conversation.